[19:26:08] @ quisquilia : if the vision crowd decides what exactly makes up a release...
[19:26:25] @ dmaxx : hm true...
[19:26:35] @ pusha : yeah
[19:26:43] @ dmaxx : problem
[19:26:54] @ quisquilia : ... and which fields are necessary...
[19:26:59] @ pusha : any chance you think this kink can work itself out along the way ?
[19:27:18] @ quisquilia : ... at THAT point the tech people can start wit technical implementation
[19:27:21] @ dmaxx : Maybe, but what if it doesnt?
[19:27:46] @ pusha : ok
[19:27:53] @ pusha : what a about a poll for the sc
[19:28:02] @ pusha : to say "vision" has the lead
[19:28:06] @ pusha : on development
[19:28:12] @ dmaxx : Maybe put a deadline on the VIS comm
[19:28:12] @ pusha : unless over rules by 2/3
[19:28:13] @ quisquilia : we need one SC head to check with each group and synchronise them
[19:28:16] @ pusha : or something like that
[19:28:41] @ dmaxx : one person to make a bridge
[19:28:45] @ dmaxx : between all groups
[19:28:46] @ quisquilia : deadline for vis sounds good
[19:28:46] @ pusha : or ..... we could over lap
[19:28:47] @ dmaxx : good for me
[19:28:57] @ pusha : vis has 5
[19:29:07] @ pusha : adding one from tech and one from BLF
[19:29:10] @ quisquilia : 5 ???
[19:29:21] @ pusha : think overlap
[19:29:21] @ quisquilia : ah, I see
[19:29:37] @ dmaxx : overlap yes
[19:29:39] @ pusha : all though that goes against my earlier statment
[19:29:47] @ pusha : give me the bridge idea
[19:29:52] @ quisquilia : dmaxx and I were thinking along the same line
[19:30:07] @ dmaxx : one member from a certain committee
[19:30:16] @ dmaxx : also being a bridge with the others
[19:30:25] @ pusha : ok ok
[19:30:28] @ quisquilia : SC head who interacts & coordinates all the sub committees
[19:30:46] @ dmaxx : y
[19:31:05] @ pusha : ok
[19:31:10] @ quisquilia : dmaxx idea can work if that "bridging" person also reports to SC head
[19:31:37] @ dmaxx : Isn't the bridging person the SC head?
[19:31:59] @ quisquilia : SC head = had of steering committe (all 11)
[19:32:20] @ quisquilia : bridges = heads of individual groups
[19:32:36] @ dmaxx : Isn't that a bit complicated?
[19:32:38] @ dmaxx : Here's my idea
[19:32:45] @ dmaxx : One head member, who is part of a sub
[19:32:47] @ quisquilia : ok or too much?
[19:32:51] @ dmaxx : Being the bridge to all subs
[19:33:48] @ quisquilia : ok but that one will be REALLY involved then for a couple of weeks
[19:33:54] @ pusha : a "floater" kind of
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[19:34:46] @ pusha : hmmm I think we have to let this play itself out
[19:35:13] @ dmaxx : Without head?
[19:35:31] @ pusha : what I mena is, maybe in the coming days and idea will ocme
[19:35:34] @ pusha : come**
[19:36:03] @ quisquilia : ok let's think about that
[19:36:16] @ quisquilia : and decide next week
[19:36:24] @ quisquilia : definitely
[19:36:28] @ pusha : I agree with you guys though, it is a concern
[19:36:41] @ pusha : a big one at that
[19:36:50] @ dmaxx : yes
[19:36:58] @ quisquilia : what timeframe for vision do you envision, pusha?
[19:37:25] @ quisquilia : two weeks, three?
[19:37:30] @ pusha : *thinking*
[19:37:35] @ dmaxx : 1Month
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[19:37:51] @ pusha : whoa the gardener has arrived
[19:37:54] @ quisquilia : we need to speed up intervalls for chats then, though
[19:37:55] @ pusha : Very Happy
[19:38:13] @ quisquilia : once per week will not be enough
[19:38:15] @ deejsasqui : howdy and g'morning / g'day to y'all
[19:38:16] @ pusha : I think Vision is gonna have to figure that out
[19:38:18] @ deejsasqui : today I'm a DJ.
[19:38:22] @ quisquilia : hi dee
[19:38:25] @ pusha : ok DJ
[19:38:28] @ pusha : Wink
[19:38:29] @ deejsasqui : www.kcpr.org
- playing live on college station
[19:38:29] @ dmaxx : It will be hard in the week
[19:38:34] @ quisquilia : ...jay
[19:38:37] @ dmaxx : Many ppl working etc
[19:38:47] @ pusha : certinatly, we can't hold everything for them though
[19:38:48] @ quisquilia : yep
[19:39:00] @ pusha : so they need to dole out ideas incromentally
[19:39:01] @ deejsasqui : I'll be reading back through this, trying to add something, or just understand where you've already gone
[19:39:17] @ pusha : coolies
[19:39:24] @ quisquilia : in the forums people start complaining...
[19:39:34] @ pusha : we refind the MS and are looking at sub committes now
[19:39:45] @ deejsasqui : tnx
[19:39:50] @ quisquilia : ...that nothing's there already...
[19:40:00] @ dmaxx : if i find time i'll start a draft for newsletter
[19:40:11] @ quisquilia : ...how about we let the techies start playing / coding...
[19:40:20] @ pusha : *nod*
[19:40:33] @ quisquilia : ...along the line of masakaris idea....
[19:40:38] @ pusha : ok I think Vis needs something in no longer then 2 weeks
[19:40:49] @ pusha : just "something"
[19:41:07] @ quisquilia : ...and the SC vision people then bring that on line
[19:41:24] @ pusha : right
[19:41:30] @ quisquilia : on line = in line (or whatever the correct term is in English)
[19:41:34] @ pusha : in part we already did some of that work last week too
[19:41:58] @ quisquilia : d?
[19:42:11] @ pusha : @ D I think a newsletter is good at this point
[19:42:25] @ quisquilia : agree
[19:42:28] @ dmaxx : y
[19:42:56] @ pusha : and that might spark some of the other SC's to get off their asses
[19:42:57] @ pusha : Very Happy
[19:43:24] @ pusha : and I mean that in a nice way
[19:43:26] @ quisquilia : so let the coders decide which language, who is responsible or what etc
[19:43:55] @ quisquilia : and in that time the vision people and subsequently the tech ppl can start
[19:44:07] @ pusha : sounds good
[19:44:20] @ quisquilia : OT: What happened to lazlo?
[19:44:34] @ quisquilia : Haven't seen him around in a while
[19:44:58] @ pusha : dont know
[19:45:10] @ pusha : so what sub com do you guys see yourselves in ?
[19:45:13] @ dmaxx : no idea
[19:45:43] @ dmaxx : i'll need to think about that
[19:45:43] @ pusha : I'm a BFL guy
[19:45:51] @ dmaxx : maybe BFL or VIS
[19:45:57] @ pusha : I dont feel qualified for the others
[19:46:07] @ dmaxx : BFL
[19:46:12] @ dmaxx : I'll do that too
[19:46:22] @ dmaxx : Especially finance
[19:46:36] @ dmaxx : Studied economy
[19:46:43] @ dmaxx : Have some good ideas
[19:46:49] @ pusha : great
[19:46:51] @ quisquilia : Vis and perhaps a helping hand for BFL
[19:47:16] @ deejsasqui : All I could really do would be Vis
[19:47:26] @ deejsasqui : BFL - I'd need to study up a lot
[19:47:29] @ quisquilia : me = economist, but focus on international financial bodies (IMF)
[19:47:34] @ pusha : your a good Vis guy
[19:47:46] @ deejsasqui : Tech - I'd only be good for layout, which is a much later step (IMO)
[19:48:00] @ pusha : <--- fears he is the least educated of the bunch
[19:48:02] @ pusha : lo
[19:48:09] @ dmaxx : Some good variety I see
[19:48:10] @ pusha : lol
[19:48:10] @ dmaxx : Nice
[19:48:24] @ quisquilia : and me = philosophy teacher, therefore vision
[19:48:26] @ dmaxx : Will someone make a topic in the forums?
[19:48:56] @ pusha : I do have to say - I have always been impressed by the shear talent of the community
[19:49:06] @ pusha : some of you guys just blow me away
[19:49:18] @ pusha : its good company to be in
[19:49:48] @ quisquilia : ok, so we have
[19:50:02] @ quisquilia : 1) vision: kerg + moi
[19:50:20] @ quisquilia : + DJ
[19:50:52] @ quisquilia : 3) BFL: dmaxx + pusha (+ help of onSC pano, hopefully)
[19:51:10] @ quisquilia : onSC = nonSC
[19:51:17] @ dmaxx : y
[19:51:18] @ quisquilia : fuck this keyboard
[19:51:30] @ pusha : lol
[19:52:00] @ quisquilia : ok, I admit, it's my lack of typing skills
[19:52:12] @ quisquilia : guys, I need to go
[19:52:17] @ deejsasqui : Yeah - looking at the Skills thread / wiki page, it's pretty impressive
[19:52:22] @ pusha : if I had to guess Hmvh would be a BFL
[19:52:38] @ quisquilia : will prolly talk with kreuz this week
[19:52:43] @ pusha : shit this might work out pretty good
[19:52:51] @ quisquilia : perhaps he's some tech ideas
[19:52:52] @ deejsasqui : Unfortunately, we haven't gotten much feedback / life on recent threads, though if we asked people directly if they had time to put in, we could get more activity
[19:53:03] @ deejsasqui : re: Pano for legal stuff - word is, he's pretty busy
[19:53:10] @ pusha : we should welcome nonSC input and help
[19:53:14] @ deejsasqui : I'm sure we can get some initial info from him, though
[19:53:24] @ pusha : DJ we are going to do a news letter
[19:53:33] @ deejsasqui : there was another person around here with legal knowledge - I'll have to look through logs to find who that was thoug
[19:53:35] @ quisquilia : he said so, yes
[19:53:47] @ quisquilia : ok, bye
[19:53:48] @ dmaxx : I'll make a newsletter draft this week
[19:53:52] @ dmaxx : IF i find the time
[19:54:08] @ pusha : d what kind of thread were you referring to above ?
[19:54:08] @ deejsasqui : Will our newsletter ask for help, along with updating people then?
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[19:54:37] @ deejsasqui : someone might have PM'd me to tell me they had professional legal experience ..
[19:55:02] @ deejsasqui : though I thought they wanted it kept quiet, as they felt they didn't have enough time to really help out enough in that area.
[19:55:31] @ dmaxx : deej: it will explain current progresses and ask ppl to join
[19:55:54] @ pusha : I think the first thing we need to do is get a thread going so people can voluenteer for their preferred sub com
[19:56:29] @ pusha : I dont think most would appreciate being "assigned"
[19:56:31] @ dmaxx : Yes, a tread in the "Steering Committee (Public)" subforum
[19:56:50] @ dmaxx : and seperate forums for the subcommittees
[19:57:00] @ dmaxx : existing out of SC and nonSC members
[19:57:17] @ deejsasqui : sounds good!
[19:57:29] @ pusha : I dont have time at the moment, but later today I can do a bunch of that
[19:57:52] @ pusha : unless someone else prefers too
[19:58:04] @ deejsasqui : Should we form new forums, or try to utilize the existing matching forums?
[19:58:20] @ deejsasqui : I worry we'll get to be like Discogs groups - too fragmented to follow everything
[19:58:43] @ deejsasqui : though if we made a focused effort at keeping things separate into their own groups, and some index thread / page, we could be fine
[19:58:44] @ pusha : we can try and use what we got
[19:58:59] @ dmaxx : Ok
[19:59:05] @ pusha : and let the subcoms decide what works best for them
[19:59:13] @ pusha : ect
[19:59:38] @ dmaxx : BFL: 4. Finance: income, sponsorship, marketplace
[19:59:54] @ dmaxx : TECH: 5. Technical: database format and structure
[20:00:04] @ dmaxx : VIS?
[20:00:35] @ pusha : new forum
[20:00:47] @ pusha : or "other"
[20:00:48] @ pusha : lol
[20:01:16] @ dmaxx : Other
[20:01:23] @ dmaxx : Smile lol
[20:01:29] @ pusha : lol
[20:01:53] @ dmaxx : If we apply [BFL], [TECH], [VIS] tags before topic titles, that'd keep things organised
[20:02:02] @ dmaxx : Maybe use a sticky index
[20:02:30] @ pusha : D you have a good feel for the organization fo the forums
[20:02:37] @ pusha : do you want to do the posts ?
[20:02:45] @ pusha : and I can come through and fill in whats needed
[20:03:41] @ dmaxx : What posts? Proposing the subcommittees,
[20:03:44] @ dmaxx : ?
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[20:04:25] @ pusha : ok maybe I am unclear on what you were thinking
[20:04:32] hmvh is Disconnected on Sun 20 Apr 2008 - 20:04
[20:04:39] @ deejsasqui : Yeah - tagging topics, and reminding people to keep on-topic would be good
[20:04:40] @ pusha : are we starting with an SC thread for subcoms ?
[20:04:50] hmvh has joined the chat the Sun 20 Apr 2008 - 20:04
[20:04:54] @ dmaxx : Yep
[20:05:04] @ pusha : ahh ok
[20:05:11] @ pusha : damm I gotta run guys
[20:05:12] @ deejsasqui : with the ideas / focuses / goals for each group
[20:05:19] Iron_Fist has joined the chat the Sun 20 Apr 2008 - 20:05
[20:05:27] @ deejsasqui : and some guidelines for how to discuss things in other threads with other users
[20:05:29] @ hmvh : Sorry, I'm out at the moment. Women: Can't live with 'em, not allowed to kill 'em!
[20:05:36] hmvh is Disconnected on Sun 20 Apr 2008 - 20:05
[20:05:37] @ pusha : lol
[20:05:49] Iron_Fist : Hi all
[20:05:58] @ dmaxx : Hi Iron_Fist
[20:05:59] @ deejsasqui : pretty much: "Tag committee threads" =)
[20:06:03] @ deejsasqui : howdy IF
[20:06:04] @ pusha : D before I go what would you like me to do?
[20:06:07] @ pusha : Hello IF !
[20:06:33] @ dmaxx : pusha, it's fine I'll make a topic
[20:06:41] @ pusha : kk
[20:06:43] @ dmaxx : to explain the subcommittees
[20:06:48] @ pusha : and I have the additions to the MS
[20:06:54] @ pusha : I can roll some of that out
[20:06:56] @ dmaxx : maybe other ppl can help me with this?
[20:07:02] @ pusha : in Dees thread
[20:07:19] @ dmaxx : That would be nice
[20:07:26] @ pusha : bsically I will pick up whereever you guys leave off where it makes sense
[20:07:29] @ pusha : k sounds good
[20:07:41] @ pusha : have a great day/evening
[20:07:46] @ pusha : everyone
[20:07:51] @ pusha : good work !
[20:07:58] @ dmaxx : k bye
[20:08:03] Iron_Fist : The chat's pretty much ending I guess?
[20:08:10] @ pusha : bye
[20:08:13] @ deejsasqui : ok - sounds good!
[20:08:16] @ dmaxx : I think it is
[20:08:39] Iron_Fist : dmaxx, did you save the history of the chat?
[20:08:49] @ dmaxx : Most people are gone
[20:08:51] @ dmaxx : yep
[20:08:54] @ dmaxx : Will be posted later
[20:09:03] Iron_Fist : cool
[20:09:05] Iron_Fist : goodbye then
[20:09:19] @ dmaxx : Bye
[20:09:25] @ deejsasqui : sorry IF - I joined a bit late, too
[20:09:49] @ deejsasqui : but there'll be more activity in the forums
[20:11:39] @ dmaxx : I will come up with a topic to explain the subcommittees later
[20:11:45] @ dmaxx : And a draft for the first newsletter
[20:12:06] @ deejsasqui : There was discussion of the mission statement, the newsletter, and sub-committees to get things happening
[20:12:36] @ dmaxx : We made some nice progress
[20:18:38] Masakari has joined the chat the Sun 20 Apr 2008 - 20:18
[20:19:15] @ deejsasqui : Howdy Masakari!
[20:19:25] Masakari : Goodday, folks!
[20:20:10] Masakari : Howdy partner! Hmm, ok I guess I missed the tea party.
[20:20:11] @ deejsasqui : Sorry to say, I think most of the discussions have happened already
[20:20:11] @ dmaxx : Hi Masakari
[20:20:25] @ dmaxx : As deejsasqui says, the action is over
[20:21:16] Masakari : np. Am going to read what has been said in the forums then. Cheers!